How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold | Better in Person

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0:14Hey there, Stephen Dubner.

0:15This is the third episode of a new video interview show we're making called Better in Person.

0:20Today's guest is the comedian Gary Goleman.

0:23You are going to love him, I guarantee.

0:26If you want the full video experience, go to the Freakonomics YouTube channel.

0:30It looks good on your phone, but it looks great on a bigger screen.

0:33You can also watch it on Apple Podcasts.

0:36Just search for Better in Person.

0:38But we also made this audio version for the Freakonomics feed in case you don't want to be distracted by the video.

0:44We aim to please.

0:46As always, thanks for listening.

0:49And now thanks for watching too.

0:57What do you have to understand about show business is the hyperbole is at such a high level that if they love you, it means they don't want to work with you, but they think you're pretty good.