How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person
Sep 16, 2026 · 33 min · YouTube
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0:00This episode of Better in Person is presented by ChatGPT.
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0:13Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner, and this is a bonus episode that we are calling How to Be a Double Unicorn.
0:19Comes from our new video talk show, which is called Better in Person, and the guest is John Urshel, a former NFL lineman who now teaches math at MIT.
0:28John is one of my very favorite people, and I think you will like him too.
0:32To watch this episode, go to the Freakonomics YouTube channel or search for Better in Person on Apple Podcasts.
0:39The entire first season of the show has now been published, so go ahead, binge.
0:44As always, thanks for listening.
0:51So you didn't never open a math book on the Ravens facility.
0:55No, never.
0:57Because you're busy doing football.
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