Why Smaller Goals Can Lead to Bigger Changes with Eric Zimmer

Sep 21, 2026 · 48 min

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0:16Behavior change is hard.

0:18That's something we talk about a lot on the Happiness Lab.

0:21And I'm pretty sure no one knows this fact about the mind better than today's guest.

0:25I had been in detox before.

0:26I had been in treatment before.

0:28So there were lots of times that I made an attempt to change, and none of them had worked.

0:35This is podcaster and author Eric Simmer.

0:38I think for a lot of, if not most addicts, there will be a story that is similar, which is probably years before they achieve full sobriety.

0:50There's a lot of little attempts at change.

0:52There's lots of attempts at moderation, only on the weekends, or I'll drink whiskey, but I won't do heroin, right?

0:59And I'd had all those.

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