#856: Jim Collins — What to Make of a Life and How to Maximize Your Return on Luck

0:00Joanne just one day she gasps out to me and it was just one of those moments it's just like etched in my emotional memory. She just gasps. I feel like I'm dying. And in a sense

0:13she was. Right? Cuz that identity as as a world champion athlete, this thing that she was so encoded for that she so loved doing was being taken away from her. And I realized that one way to

0:29study self-renewal would be to look at people who go through what in the book we call cliff events. These times in life where life in some really significant way

0:43changes under your feet. Jim, so lovely to see you yet again. Absolutely. I I really really truly just revel in the idea of a conversation with you. We've had two previous dances and I wanted to

0:59thank you / blame you for a very difficult morning because I had done lots of research and reading certainly on your latest work which took quite a tour of duty to complete. Yep. And I