#883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough

Sep 18, 2026 · 2h 12m

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0:00Hello boys and girls, ladies and germs.

0:02This is Tim Ferriss and welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferris Show.

0:05My guest today is Tanya DeJoung, co-founder of Mind Medicine Australia.

0:11She and her husband Peter did something amazing.

0:14They beat the odds and they came from the outside to lead a push that in 2023 made Australia the first country in the world to allow MDMA and psilocybin to be prescribed for psychiatric conditions.

0:27This was a huge moment.

0:28It took the whole world by surprise.

0:31And I wanted to understand how the hell did this happen?

0:34What did they do?

0:35What were the strategies?

0:36Was there a blueprint?

0:37Was it luck?

0:39Was it methodical step after step after step?

0:42What did they do?

0:43Is there a blueprint for making this type of massive change?

0:47Or are there strategies at least, bits and pieces that you can apply in your own countries or to any ambitious project you might be trying to get off the ground?

0:56Because Tanya came into this field as an entrepreneur and a singer.

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