Jared Diamond Returns (on the science of leadership)

Sep 30, 2026 · 1h 55m

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0:00Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert Experts on Expert.
0:03I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Lily Padman.
0:06Hi.
0:06Today we have, which is a great honor, for the second time, but this time in the flesh, Jared Diamond.
0:13Jared Diamond is a scientist, a historian, a professor, and a Pulitzer Prize-winning author.
0:19I mean, this guy started in the physiology department, then he became the head of the geography department.
0:24Talk about a polymath.
0:26He's an ornithologist.
0:28I mean, he's one of the smartest people we've talked to.
0:30Yeah, he really is.
0:31His most famous book, of course, legendary Guns, Germs, and Steel.
0:35If you have not read that book, it is phenomenal.
0:37Everyone should read that book.
0:38Collapse, The Third Chimpanzee, The World Until Yesterday, Upheaval, and his new book out now called Prophets, Prophets, Coaches, and Kings.
0:49When do leaders matter?
0:51This was so interesting.
0:52It's so fascinating.
0:53Spoiler, there's not one thing that we can predict an effective leader on.
0:59There's many, many things that contribute to whether or not they are.
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