Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn

0:00In 2023 when I started, nobody said Anthropic and Claude and coding in the same sentence.

0:06I want to go back to the beginning of Anthropic.

0:10I remember feeling, man, these guys have no chance.

0:12OpenAI is so far ahead.

0:14By the time I saw people were starting to use these models not just for code autocomplete, but actually writing long-form code.

0:21Is that an opportunity for us to train Opus 3 to be better at?

0:25That was the inflection.

0:26I always think about Opus 4.5 a year later during winter break when everyone was home able to code.

0:31What was magical about Opus 4.5 is we also now not just had a model, but a vehicle, a great product experience like Cloud Code.

0:40Opus 4.5 wouldn't have had that moment without a product like Cloud Code and Cloud Code wouldn't have had that type of adoption accelerated without Opus 4.5.

0:50I want to talk about how the product role is changing.

0:53For my team, the way to drive user value is to figure out the right user feedback.

0:58The evals, we actually have a saying on the team of evals are the new PRDs.