Know which rules to break, with MTV co-founder Tom Freston

Aug 13, 2026 · 32 min

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0:30This guy said, well, we're looking for people who have absolutely no experience in television.
0:37Which I was like, wow.
0:38I said, they didn't even have television where I've been living.
0:41I mean, I'm walking around in flip-flops and pajamas right here.
0:45It was hard to believe now, but MTV was really revolutionary at the time.
0:49It was a sign of some kind of future that might be coming.
0:55This is Masters of Scale.
0:56I'm Jeff Berman, your host.
0:58This week on the show, the word legend gets thrown around a lot.
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