1390: Rob Reid | Pandemic Prevention in an Age of Printable Pathogens

Oct 1, 2026 · 1h 29m

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0:47Today on the show, what happens when the ability to engineer a pandemic stops requiring a secret Soviet bioweapons lab and starts requiring roughly the same technical sophistication as cheating on your freshman biology homework?

0:59Rob Reed is back, and today we're looking at the increasingly uncomfortable marriage between AI and synthetic biology, including how researchers can order pieces of deadly viruses through the mail, why robotic cloud labs could be both revolutionary and terrifying, and how a government program somehow arrived at the brilliant idea of hunting down thousands of undiscovered viruses, identifying the most dangerous ones, and then publishing their genetic blueprints online.

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